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5 years 11 months ago #16652 by Libero
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Paitech wrote: This is the reason....

Easyjet confirmed last night that it had secured a £600 million loan from the Covid Corporate Financing Facility (CCFF), issued by HM Treasury and the Bank of England.

In addition the carrier has drawn down $500 million (£407 million) from its Revolving Credit Facility, raising cash reserves to around £2.3 billion.

The news came on the same day that Easyjet’s founder and largest shareholder Stelios Haji-Ioannou again called for the carrier’s £4.5 billion contract with Airbus to be cancelled, warning that failure to do so could see the airline run out of money “around August 2020, perhaps even earlier”.


Not sure that's the reason the markets are flying - or why Easyjet is performing.

The money EasyJet have secured isn't revenue or profit or a lottery win. It's DEBT.

Debt either has to be paid back, defaulted on, or issued against bonds or equities - Any of these will have an adverse effect on the SharePrice.

For now, the market is euphoric so, they'll ride the ride - I'd say be cautious. and remember that old quote "It's the hope that kills ya".

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5 years 11 months ago #16653 by Libero
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Trendfriend wrote: Well this is almost bordering on insanity imvho...
Airlines whose planes are all grounded are up 25% today based on what exactly? :dry:

i'm so tempted here to short the dow....so i dusted the ig markets account down and put a couple of orders in put in with tight stops....
23811 with 150 pips stop

if that fails to hold then 24291 again with a 150 pip stop...

i'm also looking to short bp and ezj....and one or two others...
so lets see...

atb, wdik, dyor
trendfriend :)


Yep, I hear you loud and clear Trendfriend. I shorted both the FTSE and SPX (see entries in each respective threads, but I'm not hanging around - lots of retail investors missed the rally yesterday want to hold the bag today it seems).

Stay Safe!
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5 years 11 months ago #16654 by charts
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The Dow is very close to exiting bear market territory remarkably. 23640 is the target.
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5 years 11 months ago #16655 by Paitech
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Libero, its about Easyjet. I read without that money, by june it would have been close the shop...
so eventhough its debt, that lets it carry on more....
Most business runs on Debt, not on full cash....
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5 years 11 months ago #16656 by Libero
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Paitech wrote: Libero, its about Easyjet. I read without that money, by june it would have been close the shop...
so eventhough its debt, that lets it carry on more....
Most business runs on Debt, not on full cash....


Excuse me Paitech, I must have misread it...

The Dow thread, the markets, easyjet rising amongst others.... I figured you meant the markets are up because of easyjet :woohoo:

Anyway, I get what you mean - they've been given a life-line. Still, my position on DEBT stands.

Debt will weigh heavily once the eurphoria passes.
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5 years 11 months ago #16657 by Paitech
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Libero wrote:

Paitech wrote: Libero, its about Easyjet. I read without that money, by june it would have been close the shop...
so eventhough its debt, that lets it carry on more....
Most business runs on Debt, not on full cash....


Excuse me Paitech, I must have misread it...

The Dow thread, the markets, easyjet rising amongst others.... I figured you meant the markets are up because of easyjet :woohoo:

Anyway, I get what you mean - they've been given a life-line. Still, my position on DEBT stands.

Debt will weigh heavily once the eurphoria passes.


Libero, if you read it, TF was surprised why the air lines were up.
Debt is a problem, but today the survival was more important, and hence easyjet up.
They would need to survive first and debt can be dealt with later on....
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