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10 years 6 months ago #13030
by Seymour Moola
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10 years 6 months ago #13031
by Seymour Moola
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Don't think this is a valid pattern as the wicks/shadows invalidate it, although very close. Shame as it viewed as quite a strong bullish reversal pattern.
If it was valid I presume stop would be at lower end of 3rd candle
If it was valid I presume stop would be at lower end of 3rd candle
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10 years 6 months ago #13032
by Food4Thought
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With the 3 white soldiers there are no gaps up (i.e. bodies cross but incrementally higher). Wicks are unimportant. If correct, stop would be low of third candle.
If there had been another gap up today similar to last two (there wasn't), you would have 3 gaps up (reversal) pattern. This is a very bearish as indicates move exhaustion.
If there had been another gap up today similar to last two (there wasn't), you would have 3 gaps up (reversal) pattern. This is a very bearish as indicates move exhaustion.
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10 years 6 months ago #13033
by Seymour Moola
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Thank you for your comment F4T
Didn't think it was valid upon further reflection.
Didn't think it was valid upon further reflection.
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10 years 5 months ago #13143
by Paitech
Replied by Paitech on topic LLOY - Breaking out of range?
Looks like LLOY is breaking out of range...
Is anyone taking up the GOVT offer or submitted? many posts saying target of 134p for LLOY?
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Is anyone taking up the GOVT offer or submitted? many posts saying target of 134p for LLOY?
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10 years 5 months ago #13144
by Paitech
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www.fool.co.uk/investing/2015/10/22/shou...-spring-share-offer/
"I’ve suggested Lloyds is good value today at 76p, but will you get even better value for money in the retail share offer?
What we know of the offer so far is:
“It is the government’s intention to fully exit from its Lloyds shareholding in the coming months, and as part of this at least £2bn of shares will be sold to retail investors. Members of the public will be offered a discount of 5% of the market price, with a bonus share for every 10 shares for those who hold their investment for more than a year. The value of the bonus share incentive will be capped at £200 per investor. People applying for investments of less than £1,000 will be prioritised”.
If you bought £1,000 worth of Lloyds’ shares today at 76p (and ignoring transaction costs), you’d be the owner of 1,316 shares.
But, if the shares are still 76p next spring, the 5% discount would give you an effective buy price of 72.2p. Your £1,000 would bag you 1,385 shares. Then, if you held for a year, you’d get your 1 bonus share for every 10, so an extra 138 shares. The bonus cap of £200 would be unlikely to reduce your 138 shares, because Lloyds would have to be trading at 145p come bonus time for that to happen, which seems a bit of a stretch.
So, buying today at 76p would give you 1,316 shares, but buying in the spring offer — if the market share price remained 76p — would net you 1,523 shares, including the bonus shares if you held for a year.
However, Lloyds’ shares are currently well below their year high. How would you do waiting for the spring offer, if the shares were back to their 89p high? Well, the 5% discount would give you an effective buy price of 84.55p, and your £1,000 would bag you 1,183 shares. The 1 bonus share for every 10 after a year would take you to 1,301 shares … which is not much less than the 1,316 shares you’d get at 76p in the market today (and that excludes transaction costs).
In short, then, it would appear to be worth waiting for the share offer, unless you are convinced Lloyds’ shares are going to be 90p+ come the spring."
"I’ve suggested Lloyds is good value today at 76p, but will you get even better value for money in the retail share offer?
What we know of the offer so far is:
“It is the government’s intention to fully exit from its Lloyds shareholding in the coming months, and as part of this at least £2bn of shares will be sold to retail investors. Members of the public will be offered a discount of 5% of the market price, with a bonus share for every 10 shares for those who hold their investment for more than a year. The value of the bonus share incentive will be capped at £200 per investor. People applying for investments of less than £1,000 will be prioritised”.
If you bought £1,000 worth of Lloyds’ shares today at 76p (and ignoring transaction costs), you’d be the owner of 1,316 shares.
But, if the shares are still 76p next spring, the 5% discount would give you an effective buy price of 72.2p. Your £1,000 would bag you 1,385 shares. Then, if you held for a year, you’d get your 1 bonus share for every 10, so an extra 138 shares. The bonus cap of £200 would be unlikely to reduce your 138 shares, because Lloyds would have to be trading at 145p come bonus time for that to happen, which seems a bit of a stretch.
So, buying today at 76p would give you 1,316 shares, but buying in the spring offer — if the market share price remained 76p — would net you 1,523 shares, including the bonus shares if you held for a year.
However, Lloyds’ shares are currently well below their year high. How would you do waiting for the spring offer, if the shares were back to their 89p high? Well, the 5% discount would give you an effective buy price of 84.55p, and your £1,000 would bag you 1,183 shares. The 1 bonus share for every 10 after a year would take you to 1,301 shares … which is not much less than the 1,316 shares you’d get at 76p in the market today (and that excludes transaction costs).
In short, then, it would appear to be worth waiting for the share offer, unless you are convinced Lloyds’ shares are going to be 90p+ come the spring."
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